Squandered Heritage Vintage

Palm, Stroelitz,and Cambronne Street {Hollygrove Carrollton}


Housing Conservation District Review Committee
Meeting Agenda
January 8, 2007
10 a.m., Room 7E07 City Hall

RESULTS DEFERRED to give time for a conversation between Neighbors and the Developer.

3613-19 Cambronne St.
3621-27 Cambronne St.
8323-29 Palm Street
8333-39 Palm St.
8322-28 Stroelitz St.
8332-38 Stroelitz St.

Applicant Justin Schmidt has applied for owner University Properties LLC to demolish six four-plex structures to be replaced with a 48-unit residential apartment building.

Carrollton Block

I spoke to a number of interested Neighbors who are opposed to higher density here.

There are about 20 or so of this type of 4 plex. The design is very compatiable with the Neighborhood. The next photo shows a unit that has been repaired.

Carrollton  repaired

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  • Evelyn Turner

    This area already has long standing problems with bad streets and heavy traffic. Palm to Cambronne is used as a short cut to metarie commuters. If these are going to be low rent apartments it introduces a host of other problems that have plagued other parts of Hollygrove. This project will be detrimental to this neighborhood. I for one will fight this effort.

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  • Justin Schmidt

    I find it very strange that that you have heard from “several neighbors” opposing this project. Not only have we won the support of the BZA at the October BZA meeting, but we have letters of support from the immediate neighborhood organizations as opposed so some other neighborhood organizations in the Northwest Carrollton area, that should probably leave ths neighborhood alone. We have also spoken to several of the immediate neighbors owning property directly across the street from this project, who have also embraced the plans. This area is zoned for higher density residential structures and will provide new, affordable housing for many, many displaced residents still living outside of New Orleans, but wanting to return.

    It is truly unfortunate that your organization feels as though such a project would be detrimental to this neighborhood and oppose such efforts at the expense of those displaced New Orleanians.

    Nothing here in being “squandered,” but invite enyone to contact me for further debate on the subject.

  • Evelyn Turner

    Mr. Schmidt

    I live across the street from the subject complex and I oppose the project.

    Presently as you know there is a huge complex adjacent to the subject complex (Carrollton Park). This complex is high rent, well maintained and police protected. Actually it is an asset to the community. “Affordable” apartments in the numbers you propose amount to not much more than a public housing “project” like the government is now tearing down around the country. I not only live in this neighborhood but I work for a community organization that exist to revitalize Hollygrove. We would love the opportunity to go on the record. I would also like to know what organization gave you it’s support. Northwest Carrollton has no interest in revitalizing Hollygrove.I suspect that’s why it became “Northwest Carrollton.” Palm, Stroelitz, and the Cambronne area is one of the last vestiges of a well maintained community of homeowners left in Hollygrove.

    As you know much of Hollygrove is crime, drug, and poverty infested. This area is an exception and you single-handedly threaten to change that. You don’t choose to live here. I do. I believe that the opposition that I raise is typical of what you would experience in many other communities. Yes we need housing and certainly we need affordable housing but what we need more than anything is a viable decent safe community where law abiding citizens want to return. I have a vested interest in this community and plan to do whatever I can to protect it from the damage that the project you plan would do to Hollygrove. I am working to make New Orleans a better place to live so I can live in it in peace and with pride.

  • Justin Schmidt

    Ms. Turner et al.,

    I invite anyone wishing to learn more about the project or discuss its details to contact me anytime at my office at 585-0361.

  • Justin,

    I am sorry that you read this post as a personal affront.

    It is my personal belief that the idea of increased density is a mistake as well as a dated idea.

    When the BNOB plan was unveiled some of the language they employed was quickly adopted.
    The Plan on the other hand was rejected and created a storm that lasts till this day. One of the words that has been used over and over is Higher Density.

    We have had a population on the decline for years,blighted and abandoned property remains in many parts of the City including unflooded areas. The demand for housing is not as great as the demand for projects which qualify for Go Zone money.

    In closing you may have noticed that we post all properties that are on the HCDRC agenda. Often times when we photograph these buildings Neighbors and Homeowners approach us to discuss what we are doing. I share what information I have and report reactions and opinions.

    For too long people have accepted decisions made by those who do not live in our neighborhoods. When we were told to Prove our Viability we, as Citizens have attempted to do that. Unfortunatly this makes it a little more complicated for Developers, but ultimatly a quality project will prevail. When we work together.

    As well as my home in Northwest Carrollton we also own an Art Studio in Hollygrove where my husband and I work.


  • randall

    Justin please don’t make low income high rises. Please, this city has suffered enough.

  • Randall

    Justin how about a low icome highrise at 1506 7th Street. Thats a great location for one.

  • Justin

    Nice Randall!! Its been my experience that when all else fails, a little subtle intimidation is usually the next step. Unfortunately, it just doens’t get to me.

    However, because you’ve now made this personal, I’ll use your latest post as a springboard to a free lesson in zoning laws.

    You see, my home on Seventh Street would not be an appropriate site for this project because it is not zoned for such. When my wife and I were looking for houses, we actually had the foresight to research the zoning districts and made the deliberate decision not to move into a neighborhood that was zoned RM-4, Multi-Family. Unfortunately, this area was a whole lot more expensive than some other alternatives, so we have had to make sacrifices along the way to make it work, but we got what we wanted. While I have not personal stake in this project, my client merely wishes to construct an apartment building in a zoning district which permits such.

    I would add that prior to moving into my current house, I lived on St. Charles Avenue across the street from a 120 unit complex. We did not experience any issues with increase crime, traffic, etc. Do you know something about the Hollygrove neighborhood that would suggest that they would not be equally good neighbors? It is my experience that these are extremely hard working people that deserve more credit than you give them.

    I would also like to add that I have made a significant commitment to do pro bono legal work in housing and land use in rebuilding neighborhoods in 2007 and have already identified my first project in Hollygrove.

    I have recently learned that an artist and a milliner (really a modern day “Mad Hatter”) have established an illegal “studio” on Colapissa Street which is zoned RD-2 and does not permit such a use. I have already brought this to the attention of my contacts in Safety and Permits and they will in due course investigate and issue the proper citations. Its the least I can do.

    I again invite you to contact me directly instead of hiding behind this website. I’ll be happy to talk to you at any time.

  • Our flooded studio in Hollygrove is vacant. I have been unable to work at that property since the flood.

    Right now we are working on restoring the property.

    My husband has another property that he works in.

    If your frustration and anger at dissemination of Public Information is such that you feel the need to go after me personally then there is nothing I can do about that except to suggest that attempting to put us out of business in a City that needs as many Community Activists as it can find is short sighted.

    Randall, is a commenter on this blog, a 15 year old Lakeview resident who is angry and frustrated, his actions may be objectional but attacking me seems a cheap shot.

  • JS

    Not trying to put anyone out of business. I am just pointing out that it is pretty hypocritical to criticize a legally conforming use when you have publically admitted that you yourself are operating contrary to the zoning regulations. Where have I heard that before???

    You assign way too much credit to my emotions. As the attorney for the project, I am neither frustrated or angered by your website or comments (remember I get paid very well win or lose).

    As a citizen of New Orleans, when I see things like this happen, I do get somewhat frustrated and start to lose hope. You are so wrapped up in your little world that you are missing the bigger picture. The bottom line is that this City needs a working class and a middle class, neither of which have returned to the City since the evacuation. Without both groups, we will not survive. While “Randall” may or may not be a 15 year old, he clearly has not been at the grown- up table long enough to identify the real problems here and realize that taking medicine sometimes doesn’t taste so great going down.

    As I have said before, your irresponsible one-sided posts without exploring all angles to a matter amount to nothing more than what I would expect from a highschool muckraker writing for the school rag. It becomes counterproductive to everyone involved.

    It’s time to get serious. Grab Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys and make sure you get back to the clubhouse before supper!!!

  • Nola J

    Justin…. careful.
    Slander is something Lawyers should understand.

  • JS

    Nola J,

    Actually, the correct term you were trying to use is “libel.” Slander addresses the spoken word. Libel addresses the written word.


  • Nola J

    Good, so you understand what I mean. I’m not the lawyer… you are.

  • JS

    Now that you at least know what word you’re trying to use, we’ll have to work on the definition and the elements of the cause of action another day. 🙂

  • CBC

    Gosh! This seems like the same sort of ridiculous I’ll-get-you anger that arose in the Walgreen’s/Robert’s tangle. Are these the same players? I believe there is a real beauty to these old two-story apartment complexes. The density seems correct, and there is green space and, dare I say, even a stately sense to them. Those that have been rebuilt are lovely-looking. I imagine there is more money for a developer to tear them down, get all sorts of credits, and rebuild something denser with less character. But is that really best for the city? And if we are really worried about bringing people back, and the sooner the better, shouldn’t these six buildings be renovated as quickly as possible?

  • JS

    Oh CBC, you fell into the same trap that young Randall did in that he jumped to conclusions without first getting all of the facts.

    Lovely-looking might be pushing it a bit, while I agree that leaving a sample of this type of construction on another square as the developer is doing is worth-while.

    As I explained to young Randall in my very cordial telephone conversation, which I would even characterize as “cute” (he even *69 ‘ed the call so I wouldn’t know his number and had to run off to a piano lesson), this is not a high-rise development like Cabrini-Green in Chicago as he initially thought (wonder where he got that idea???) but a mere two and a half story building that is not higher than 36 feet. In fact, as I explained to young Randall, the density is even less than what is there now as the developer is reducing the total number of bedrooms in the proposed plans.

    Further, while giving you the benefit of the doubt and going with your “lovely-looking” characterization, the asbestos tiles that that these buildings were clad in were really not the healthiest or esthetically pleasing. Instead, the proposed combination brick, stucco, Hardi plank will add the architectural detail that this neighborhood deserves.

    Like others, I again invite you to actually call and get such details before you jump to conclusions. No anger, no frustration just continued bewilderment that the moderators of this site and other related sister sites refuse to be professional and pick up the telephone and gather all of the facts before irresponsibly posting comments.

    Our City planners correctly identified this area as an appropriate RM-4 zoning district. After all, it is close to major streets, transit lines and hopefully soon retail shopping facilities that residents without personal transportation can easily access.

    Have a nice evening and please call when you are serious about discussing the project.

  • CBC

    Cripes! I really admire anyone calling you. You seem so angry and your tone is so mean-spirited. I can’t imagine that a phone conversation would be any too pleasant. But you didn’t answer my question. Did you have something to do with that Walgreen’s mess? The same sort of chip-on-the-shoulder attitude seemed to be there, too…

    I do have a few points/questions. One, since when is Hardi-plank a lovely architectural detail? Ick! Two, what on God’s green earth is a two-and-a-half story building? Three, asbestos roofs/siding are pretty easily removed. Four, what do you mean, “leaving a sample of this kind of architecture is worthwhile.” It seems to me that a cohesive neighborhood isn’t comprised of various “samples.” And, finally, why would any developer want to tear down good existing buildings in order to rebuild at a lesser density–particularly if he is planning on renting to the same population. That doesn’t make sense to me–much less to the simple-minded soul that you make me out to be.


  • randall

    he is actually a really nice person. Justin, I would like it if you would not refer to me as “young Randall and please don’t call the conversation “cute”. Justin really is a nice person over the telephone. I suggest that yall should try to call him to get some facts straight.

  • There are a few things I don’t really understand here. First, who’s letting milliners loose on Hollygrove, and what can we do about it?

    But more seriously, I don’t get why “affordable housing” is so often equated exclusively with “high density.” High density may be an important topic for cities with sprawl issues, but as Karen has pointed out, that’s not our problem in New Orleans. Road Home may be a dirty word these days, but if I recall correctly, the rental component of the RHP incorporated incentives for small rental repair to be rented at various below AMI rates for exactly these kinds of properties – doubles and three- and four-plexes. The RHP rental program has been slow to get off the ground (to put it kindly), but I feel we should be encouraging this facet of it. If it’s not working, we should follow the lead of CHAT‘s work on behalf of homeowners, and press the LRA and ICF to live up to it.

    Another thing that stymies me is that our “disposable society” (well beyond New Orleans) extends all the way to the structures we live in. Had my grandmother (who used to save even plastic bread bags to crochet into bath mats and such) lived to see thousands of refrigerators on the curb, that might have been enough to do her in. Maybe the Depression era stuck with her a little more than most, but I think the rampant demolition of restorable structures would have sent many of her generation even farther over the edge than the massive waste of major appliances.

    And beyond the matters of historical value or population density (which are both of concern to me), an even greater fear of mine is the “disposible society” attitude behind so much new construction these days. Look, for instance, at the recently built Saulet Apartments on Annunciation. “Will reopen soon…” their website still reads. I don’t know how the University Properties LLC development will be built, but no one can deny that the number of homes built to 100+ year standards is rapidly dwindling with respect to the Saulets, McMansions, and above all, low-income complexes that aren’t designed to withstand a decade. It’s not unwarranted for communities to devote special attention to any new developments to ensure that they’re living up to adequate, durable construction standards for future residents and neighbors alike.

  • JS


    Thanks for your comments. I agree and apoligize about the “cute” charachterization. After sleeping on it, I think “refreshing” is the more appropriate adjective, but I’ll defer to you. My underlying observation is that as a young adult, you took the time to actually find out about the project and make a judgment about with all of the information. This is rare, especially with some other contributors to this website that use it solely for furthering their personal agendas as opposed to initiating an open dialog about the merits of a project.

    Randall, in earlier posts, I’ve identified some instances of what I call “zoning hypocracy” also know as “NIMBYism” . In other posts, another contributor tries to distort the facts of the project at hand, by attacking the messenger and linking the current project to a controversial project, one already being approved by the developer and the City, but apparently still leaving a poor taste in the mouths of a small number of neighbors. CBC knows the answers to the questions he poses, but would rather cloud the issues than address them and hide behind the shroud of an anonymous blog.

    I’ll close in commending Becky Houtman for at least addressing the issues at hand instead of trying to cloud them and actually posing some good questions.

    I agree with a number of things she says. Modern constrction for the most part sucks. The portion of my house that was built in 1857 is in much better shape and need a whole lot less repairs than that portion that was added in the 1960’s. I think the same would hold true with anything made now as opposed to in days of yore whether we are talking about automobiles or kitchen mixers. I’m afraid everything these days is made to “wear out” sooner than later because the technology of a few years will be make it obsolete. While I doubt housing stock will wear out as fast, it too will have a limited life span. The subject structures, built in the 50’s while they are better than some strctures, are still questionable.

    Density can always be debated. The NIMBYs usually attack projects based on density because they make an unsubstantiated leap that higher density means higher crime. The bottom line is that this property is zoned RM-4 multi-family. Like other portions of the City, planners concluded that because of it’s geographic location (I’ve discussed specifics above) it works here. I think everyone including CBC would agree that the City needs multi-family apartments somewhere and that not all of our City’s residents can afford to be or even want to be homeowners. I would also suggest that higher density is one of the things that makes New Orleans, New Orleans. If we were all spread out, we might as well be living in the suburbs of Houston.

    Becky also mentioned a concern that our City has become “disposable.” While again, in certain instances, this should be a concern, it should be balanced with progress.

    While the St. Charles Hotel was a great and historic hotel, in the 80’s, as our City grew and there was a need for more office space, Place St. Charles grew from it’s former footprint. In the 60’s and 70’s, my family owned what some people might consider a historic railroad yard/warehouse at the intersection of Poydras Street and Claiborne Avenue where the Super Dome currently sits. Although I’ve sure one or two of this blogs readers would take issue, I think the majority of the readers would agree that the Super Dome was a pretty good thing for New Orleans.

    Randall, I hope you contine to ask the right qestions and ask them often. You know how you can contact me if I can ever be of an assistance to you.

    Best of luck,


  • CBC

    “In other posts, another contributor tries to distort the facts of the project at hand, by attacking the messenger and linking the current project to a controversial project, one already being approved by the developer and the City, but apparently still leaving a poor taste in the mouths of a small number of neighbors. CBC knows the answers to the questions he poses, but would rather cloud the issues than address them and hide behind the shroud of an anonymous blog.”


    I do not know you–but the fact that you don’t seem to want to answer direct questions in writing makes me think you are a lawyer. And that you are apparently running around reporting everyone and their brother–including Dr Seuss and Alice in Wonderland characters–to zoning and permits, doesn’t much encourage me to hand you my handbag.

    All I asked is that you answer my questions, which you still have not done. A simple “yes” or “no” answer will suffice.

    1. Were you involved in the Walgreen’s mess?

    2. Do you consider Hardi-plank a lovely architectural detail?

    3. Is there such an animal as a two-and-a-half story building?

    4. Are asbestos siding/roofs removable?

    5. Does “sample architecture” form an architecturally cohesive neighborhood?

    6. Does it make sense for a developer to tear down good existing buildings in order to rebuild at a lesser density–particularly if he is planning on renting to the same population?

    Seems to me these are very simple questions. Here is an example of possible answers:

    1. yes
    2. yes
    3. no
    4. yes
    5. yes
    6. no
    7. no

    Your turn. Ready now, begin….


  • JS


    Please talk to Randall. As you are still having trouble grasping simple concepts, at 15 years old, Randall will be able to help you. If you still have questions, please feel free to call.

    In the alternative, since you seem to like to ask questions, please opine to is one: Although I can probably quess your answer, why should a property owner not be able to construct a building that is consistent with the underlying zoning?

    On second thought, this has really become uninteresting. When you have something more than rhetorical questions to contribute, I’ll get back to you.



  • CBC


    I will try one more time…

    1. Were you involved in the Walgreen’s mess?

    2. Do you consider Hardi-plank a lovely architectural detail?

    3. Is there such an animal as a two-and-a-half story building?

    4. Are asbestos siding/roofs removable?

    5. Does “sample architecture” form an architecturally cohesive neighborhood?

    6. Does it make sense for a developer to tear down good existing buildings in order to rebuild at a lesser density�particularly if he is planning on renting to the same population?


  • JS

    Okay, I’m now at lunch so I’ll answer your questions to placate you.

    1. I do not not know about what “Walgreens mess” you are referring. I am aware that there will soon be a Walgreens Drugstore with a pharmacy drive-thru constructed at the corner of Claiborne and Carrollton as well as a Robert’s Fresh Market at the corner of Nelson and Dublin.

    2. Hardi -plank is a good, modern-day, durable building material. While I personally prefer Cypress planks, they are very expensive and rarely used now for exterior construction. Keep in mind that there will also be bricks and stucco on the exterior.

    3. While the building code does not permit half stories, the use of the term “half story” is used commonly to give some idea about height. As used in this manner, it also indicated a partial top floor that is constructed in the vaulted portion of the roof.

    4. Of course, asbestos roof shingles and siding panels are removable. Fortunately, in America, and in particular this portion of America know as New Orleans, private property owners have the right to remove such shingles/panels and replace them with whatever building material they like, provided it meets any applicable historical district guidelines. While we’re speaking about property rights, I might add that owners still have the right to do what they wish to non-historic properties.

    5. I’m no architect, but I know enough about this neighborhood that there is not a single architectural thread that is “cohesively holding” this neighborhood together. As in most parts of New Orleans there is a nice mix of styles.

    6. What might make sense to you, might not make sense to others and vice-versa. I typically defer to the developer for the highest and best use for a given tract of land. I do remember from economics class that the highest and best use for property zoned multi-family is not single family detached residential structures. I might also add that by reconfiguring the housing units, the developer will be adding several “community” based common areas including a sizeable meeting room and a classroom with computers.



  • PC

    I’m not JS, nor am I associated with him. And his initial responses were a bit off-putting.

    But, CBC: you’re questions are somewhere between irrelevant (dragging in Walgreen’s?) and not answerable as yes/no (removable? Anything is doable – for a cost). And I suspect you know that. But you are looking to box someone into an untenable position using straw man arguments.

    Since you insist on “yes/no”, I’d answer these questions for myself, having come to follow some of the intent of JS’s posts:
    1) No
    2) No
    3) Yes
    4) Yes
    5) No
    6) No

    Now that you have fodder for your cannon, lets review these questions in more detail.

    1) You haven’t presented any reason at all why this question would be relevant.
    2) Of course not. But he actually didn’t say it was. “lovely architectural detail” was your statement. JS’s was:

    “Instead, the proposed combination brick, stucco, Hardi plank will add the architectural detail that this neighborhood deserves”

    3) Yes, there is. I have friends who live in what they call 2 1/2 story buildings. I bet they’d be surprised to find that there aren’t such things.

    4) Sure, as I said above: everything is doable for a cost. A more reasonable question would be “Are they removable at a reasonable cost?” But “reasonable” doesn’t appear to be part of your line of questioning.

    5) I’m not an architect, nor a city planner. But diverse architecture seems to me to be a part of our city’s fabric. I don’t know what “sample” architecture is. But “sample” can mean many things.

    6) Not only am I not a developer, I am not *this particular* developer. Nor are you. Nor is JS. It is only in the head of *that particular* developer whether or not this plan makes (financial) sense. And its a bit irrelevant because I’m not sure many people thing that the existing buildings are “good”.


    Since you seem fond of straw man yes/no questions, and I’ve tried to answer yours, can you answer one?

    a) Have you stopped kicking your dog yet?

    Note: I am not in favor of kicking dogs. I don’t know (nor do I care) if CBC has a dog. I merely attempt to point out the absurdity of false premises and misleading questions.

  • JS

    Well said PC.


  • CBC


    Hi! How are you? I suppose I should respond by going down my list of questions…

    1. If you will look at JS’s response, you will see that he still did not answer the question. This leads me to think that he was a player in the Walgreen’s project. The reason I ask is because many such people (lawyers, etc.) move from one such project to the next, pocketing fees and doing the same thing over and over again. I was trying to see if this is the case. I think it is–and I think it was a fair question.

    2. Okay, I will get rid of the word “lovely.” Truly, I don’t think anyone would refer to Hardi-plank as an “architectural detail” any more than they would “paneling” or even “plywood.”

    3. I didn’t know about that 2 1/2 story thing. Thanks for the info!

    4. Obviously you are right–and, if you look at the pictures, someone has already taken the incentive to remove the siding. I have driven by, and all that is left is the roofing, which is not all that substantial (compared to the siding.)

    5. Of course diversity is good. But if you drive about this site, you will see that these structures form a sort of architectural “core” for the immediate neighborhood. To get rid of a chunk of them makes no more sense than going into the Quarter, knocking down Creole cottages and constructing steel and glass houses. What I mean is that these structures are not a “samplings” now, they are the norm. They are being turned into a “sampling”–and unnecessarily so. (I don’t know that I explained that well, but maybe you see my point.)

    6. To say yes to this question is simply illogical–unless the developer and his cohorts are planning on pocketing moneys in all other sorts of ways. You are right. Who knows? But it would be nice if that money were spent on the city and not gifted to the developer, no? And, yes, many do think that the existing buildings are “good.”

    7. I don’t have a dog. But I am curious as to how you know JS isn’t the developer? I don’t know that. Well, next time he phones you up to rescue him in a blog, give him my best…


  • PC

    As I said, I don’t know JS. My comment about JS not being the developer is from his comment:

    “As the attorney for the project…(remember I get paid very well win or lose)”

    I can’t verify whether or not JS actually works for University Properties or not. But from that comment, I infered that he was not part of the LLC, but representing it. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t. He presented himself as separate, and I take that at face value.

    As for your re: #6: “But it would be nice if that money were spent on the city and not gifted to the developer, no? “

    I’m not sure what money you’re talking about – what money is being gifted to the developer?

    Without developers willing to pour their own money in, I don’t see how New Orleans will be fully rebuilt in our lifetiem. And if we ask developers to do so, then we should expect them to make a profit. I have no qualms whatsoever with “carpet-baggers” coming in and making a fortune, *if their attempts to do so help in the overall rebuilding of New Orleans*.

    More power to them, I say…

  • JS

    Unfortunately, I’m only the attorney and not the developer, but my wife keeps telling me I ought to get a piece of the action. Because I’m not a developer, as you guessed, sometimes we do have to move from project to project. Over the years, we get experience practicing certain types of law and then we get known for such experience and are retained to assist with other projects around town. I think doctors and architects work the same way. I even think my landscaper had a similar evolution.

    It’s funny how that works. Isn’t it?

    I might also add, if I did have PC’s number, I would have already invited him to Galatoire’s for an enjoyable lunch on Friday.

  • CBC


    You cannot be a true Southerner, if you like carpetbaggers…. Damn! It’s not enough that we have to deal with money-focused attorneys, developers, thieves and thugs–now yankees, too!

  • JS

    Careful CBC, one of our webhosts is a Yankee from Boston!!!


  • CBC


    Don’t try to cozy up to me, JS. If my great-great-great-great-great grandfather, John C. Calhoun, heard someone speak fondly of a carpetbagger (tho he died before the War), well, I think he might slap ’em. If he caught a Southerner working in cahoots with a yankee company like Walgreen’s (based in Chicago, no?), well, he’d surely shoot ’em.


  • JS

    Thank you CBC. I figured that if you carried on long enough you would expose yourself for who you really are.

    My work here is done.


  • randall

    Oh karen get rid of this blog post now!!! Its had 33 posts, its outlived its life. the insults are geeting civil war like. To much fighting. Delete my message when you see it at least if you dont delete this section

  • CBC


    Who I am is someone who can take a joke. Obviously this isn’t who you are. I am glad your work here is done. Does that mean you will be moving to another struggling city in which to wring a few bucks from? Good luck!

  • JS

    Sorry, as a life long resident and one that is very involved in the community, I think I’ll stay around and continue to contribute. As a consolation to you though, I’m going to arrange to have you cut the ribbon at the grand opening at the proposed Super Walmart at Carrollton and the Expressway.

    You really deserve such an honor.


  • CBC

    I’m sure you’ll be intimately involved in bringing that to the hood, too. Right up your alley. As a lifelong resident, maybe someday when you do something for the city and a bit less for yourself, we’ll actually let you RIDE in Rex.


  • JS

    Now that’s a funny joke!!! If you only knew!!!!

  • CBC

    Oh but I do know.

  • Alessandro Dionisio

    Justin Schmidt, Sounds like a great project, I am sure it will be a great hit, can we see some renderings and site plan so we can all see how this will look.

    Good luck

  • randall

    A wal mart . do tell more, email me at katrinaevacuee200@yahoo.com.

  • randall fox

    This is so funny how adults fight. Wow. We went from apartment complex to yankee bashing to riding in the rex parade. You guys are are so hillarious.

  • randall fox

    Oh is calhoun street named after your distant relative.

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  • CBC

    Vox BoxPop,

    I don’t know where you found this, but thanks for posting. I knew that these two (JS and PC) must know each other, have the same basic outlook RE development, and support each other. I was confident that PC was lying when he said he didn’t know JC. I think this is just a good example of how, when it comes to $$$, such people will LIE, cheat, and steal. Here, by the by, is PC’s lie:

    “As I said, I don’t know JS. My comment about JS not being the developer is from his comment…”

    I mean, really, how can these people be trusted? Obviously they can’t.

  • PC

    PC is me: Paul Christmann. I posted that entry on another blog (hence the trackback – I’m BoxPop also), but then took it down since it was not relevant to the content on that blog.

    When I posted, I suspected that I knew Justin, and intentionally did nothing to verify that until I had finished my blog entries. I do not know what kind of law Justin practices; I know him socially.

    I regret the lie that I posted.

    However, that lie had no bearing on my posts, nor my opinions. I still do not know, nor care, whether Justin is a developer; I formed my opinions based on the comments posted here.

    I still find the line of reasoning that you used to be misleading, and that’s what prompted my posts.

    I am merely a software developer. I have no horse in this race, aside from my own interests in the redevelopment of New Orleans.

    Again, yep: I posted an untruth, a lie. And I regret it.

    And that lie had nothing to do with the contents of my posts.